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The mahat-tattva is the creation of Maha-Vishnu; everything in His innate or lifeless material creation is the manifestation of His dreams and thoughts. They are available to an unlimited number of jiva-souls As their secondary baddha-jiva The mahat-tattva along with all its vessels, are continuously created and annihilated with the creation and destruction of each mahat-tattva. Only pious or impious activities can reveal both the heavenly and hellish words to an individual however, there is no gross material way other than by the path of self realization under the guidance of a Guru can this be realized, experienced and understood.

He is Sri-Krsna Govinda hare murare, he natha narayana vasudeva, all in one. Therefore, he is called the Lords marginal energy. In the above verses, Srila Prabhupada explains that marginal energy or jiva-tattva has the propensity to reject the sanction of the Lord and act independently due to choice and free-will, this is what the word MARGINAL really means. We are eternal subordinates of Krishna like the sunrays are subordinate to the Sun globe.

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Hare Bol, your fallen servant Gauragopala dasa. As we try to decipher the true reality, this quote by Srila Prabhupad may help. Our spiritual body is non-different from the presence of jiva soul conscious entity…simply covered ignorance, illusion with misidentification with the covering, the material body. So we do not come into being, nor go out of being, but rather the consciousness is covered by varying degrees of ignorance.

At those times they would inquire from him about the deep meanings in various Gaudiya-Vaisnava scriptures, such as Jaiva-dharma, Raga-vartma-candrika, the Rasa-pancadhyayi chapters of Srimad-Bhagavatam, and Sri Vilapa-kusumanjali. There were a few hundred such meetings, and the audio sound files of many of these meetings can be found on www. The following is Part 1 of one of these meetings, which took place on March 29, Parts 2 and 3 will follow soon.

As usual, we appreciate your feedback. They are perpetually conditioned in this material world and are subjected to the material tribulations brought about by different bodily forms in hellish conditions. Everything about his relationship with Krsna is present in his svarupa, but he has never felt it. In cannot be said that in a seed there is no tree, no fruit, no branches, and no leaves. All this is there, but we cannot see it; it is in a latent position. If a person has eyes, he sees everything in the seed — how many leaves will come, how many fruits will be there, when the leaves will be green, after how much time the leaves will turn yellow, at what time they will fall, and when there will again be new leaves.

Everything is there in the seed, in a latent stage. The mukta-mahapurusa, or liberated, self-realized soul, sees that the soul in this world is serving Krsna, but we see that we are conditioned souls. No definitive mundane words can be used to actually explain jiva-tattva, because it is beyond siddhanta. In other words, the form of the soul is beyond our comprehension.

It is not a tree, but it will become a tree. Not everything is similar. For example, the seed of a tree is not cetana conscious, or alive , but atma, the soul, is cetana. Maya is not present in the atma. There are no clouds in the sun; but they are outside of the sun.

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We see the clouds, but those who are above the clouds are always seeing the sun; they do not see clouds. Similarly, self-realized souls like Sri Narada Rsi can see that we are always serving, even though we are conditioned souls. What we tell at this stage is only for some time. It is only an example for you at this time. It is not an exact example.

You should try to perform harinama, and beg for mercy so that you will come out of maya and realize all of these truths. Harinama is pure:. It bestows all spiritual benedictions, for it is Krsna Himself, the reservoir of all pleasure. It is not a material name under any condition, and it is no less powerful than Krsna Himself. This is because the name of Krsna and Krsna Himself are identical. Who can realize this?

Conditioned souls can only suppose what reality is like. Srila Bhaktivinoda Thakura has written in his Jaiva-dharma that devotees who perform harinama and beg mercy from Sri Krsna and Sri Caitanya Mahaprabhu may realize transcendence cetana-vastu, cid-vastu [Krsna is the complete cid-vastu, or living being, and the jiva is the infinitesimal cid-vastu, or spirit spark], otherwise it is not possible. In sastra, numerous siddhantas philosophical conclusions have been told, only for us.

It is not that all siddhanta is for all persons at all stages of their development in bhakti. There is some siddhanta for kanistha-Vaisnavas neophytes in bhakti , some for madhyama-Vaisnavas those devotees in the intermediate stage , and some for uttama-Vaisnavas, those devotees who have crossed over maya. It is not that all siddhanta is in the same category. In Srimad-Bhagavatam, so many categories of siddhanta are given for various classes of persons. We should therefore try to do bhajana and realize all these transcendental or spiritual truths cinmaya-tattva.

Mundane logic and reasoning will not go there at all. Perhaps what you previously thought about the jiva and bhakti has changed. Perhaps you are now thinking, understanding, and realizing differently. Similarly, your present understanding will also change when you will become a maha-bhagavata and cross over maya. Then you will realize everything. An important point to note: the idea that the anadi-baddha jiva, the conditioned soul in this world, has fallen from the spiritual abode of the Lord is not accepted by our acaryas. A kanistha-vaisnava?

A madhyama-vaisnava? A madhyama-adhikari Vaisnava can only give siddhanta. He cannot speak from experience. If we want realization, it is necessary to hear from the three kinds of uttama-bhagavatas: Nirdhuta-kasaya, murchitta-kasaya and bhagavat-parsada-deha-prapta. The most elevated of the three is bhagavat-parsada-deha-prapta. When Narada Muni was a practicing devotee he was a murchitta-kasaya.

Anyone can have bhakti by the association of these three maha-bhagavatas. The association of a madhyama-adhikari can take us to the entrance of sadhana-bhakti, and his mercy can lead us to an uttama-bhagavata.

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Such persons are the best of all uttama-bhagavatas. Those who, although still residing within the gross material body made of five elements, have no trace of material desire vasana nor any material impressions samskaras within their hearts are called nirdhuta-kasaya those who have thrown off all material impurities. They belong to the intermediate class of uttama-bhagavatas.

Those siddha-mahapurusas pursuing the path of bhakti in whose hearts there remains a trace of desire vasana and impressions samskaras based on the material mode of goodness are known as murcchita-kasaya. Due to influence of their bhakti-yoga, these desires and impressions remain in a dormant or unconscious state. As soon as there is a favourable opportunity, their worshipful object, Sri Bhagavan, somehow causes their desire to be consumed and attracts them to His lotus feet. Such elevated souls belong to the preliminary stage kanistha of uttama-bhagavatas.

Devarsi Narada is an example of the topmost uttama-bhagavata. Sukadeva Gosvami belongs to the intermediate stage of uttama-bhagavatas nirdhuta-kasaya. Sri Narada in his previous birth as the son of a maidservant is an example of the preliminary stage of uttama-bhagavatas murcchita-kasaya. The association and mercy of these three kinds of maha-bhagavatas is the cause of the manifestation of sraddha.

Sri Bhakti-rasamrta-sindhu ]. With a single fragment of Myself I pervade and support this entire universe. Every universe is full of atoms, and the Lord is not only within the universe but also within the atoms. SB A part was also played by Baladeva, the first expansion of Godhead. CC Adi 7. The living entities are also eternal and are also living forces, but they are very minute in quantity, whereas the Supreme Lord is the supreme living force and the supreme eternal.

The supreme eternal never accepts a body of a temporary material nature, whereas the living entities, who are part and parcel of the supreme eternal, are prone to do so. Thus according to the Vedic mantras the Supreme Lord is the supreme master of innumerable living entities. Factually, however, there is a distinction. CC Madhya When one is purified by these rules and regulations, he worships You, the Supreme Personality of Godhead.

Although manifested in many forms, You are one. According to the Vedic literatures, there are different regulative principles for the worship of each of these forms. Actually demigod worship is meant for unintelligent men.


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One who worships demigods worships the Supreme Lord indirectly, but according to the revealed scriptures, there is no need to worship Him indirectly. One can worship Him directly. Lecture on BG 9. How everyone can be God? If everyone is God, then what is the significance of God? People do not know it. So in this way, God is person and His personal expansions are innumerable, unlimited. Lecture on SB 1. They are the original. Then the expansion of the plenary expansion, then again expansion, again expansion.

These things are described in Teachings of Lord Caitanya. You must read. The first expansion is Baladeva. We are also expansion, but we are separated expansion, living entities. Just like this my hand is my part and parcel of my body, direct expansion. And from the hands there are so many hairs.

They are also from the hand. Just as my head. And from the head there are so many hairs. So they are also expansion. But they are separated expansion. I can cut my hair, but I cannot cut my throat. They are worshipable. But all together taken, that is one. That is Absolute Truth. The demigods are also living entities. So the demigods…. That is also a fact. They are accepted as different parts and parcels of God, as we are also. So the demigods… You can become a demigod. You can become. If you follow the process how to become, then you become one day the demigod in the sun planet.

It is not difficult. Just like you can become one day President Nixon, like him. That requires your qualification. That is not possible. God is one. You cannot become God, but you can become part and parcel of God, more powerful. That is possible. Just like you are all Americans, but some of you can become a big officer in the government, the president, the secretary, the governor, but their position is better than ordinary man, similarly, the demigods are like that. They are described. There are different tattvas. Lecture on SB 2.

That is of the spiritual world. Lecture on SB 6. That is not. So people are being misguided in that way. Do this! That is knowledge; that is education. Lecture on CC Adi-lila 1. He is the ultimate, Supreme. Param iha. It is the Supreme. And how to know? Then you have to go, approach the bona fide guru. He will let you know. Lecture on CC Adi-lila 7. But they do not know behind this material nature the real powerful is there. Just like we are enjoying the electric light, electric power, but as soon as it has failed from the powerhouse, everything stoped.

When He desires, there is creation, this material manifestation, and when He winds up, everything is finished. This is the way. So how He is doing that? That is explained in this chapter. That is the proposal of the author. They are not energetic. We have seen fire, blazing fire, and when fire is blazing, we can see the sparks and the original fire. So how it is so? Because one has to give evidence. Because there are different categories.

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Just like the fire, fire and its heat. Heat is the energy, and the fire is the energetic. Similarly, the Supreme Lord, He is the energetic, Supreme Person, and we, the living entities, we are energy. But as you cannot separate energy and energetic separately… Wherever there is energy, wherever there is fire, there is heat also. You cannot separate the fire… So as soon as we are separated, that is our conditional state.

How we are separated? That illuminating spark which was dancing with the fire, as soon as falls down, it becomes black, charcoal. It is just like carbon. So, so long with the fire, it is just like, as good as fire, illuminating. So our position is like that. That is a false theory. So there is no difference in power. It has no value according to Vedic scripture.

Every one of us trying to utilize the material resources of the material nature. We are simply trying. Means we are not personal expansions. Just like candles, there are many candles, each candle has got the illuminating power. The separated expansions are we, we living entities. It is not corroborated. Madhya Just like fire and heat or light. Heat is not different from fire, but heat is not fire. So simultaneously one and different. We are neither different nor one, simultaneously, and therefore it is called inconceivable, acintya.

In our material conception we cannot think that one thing may be simultaneously one with another and different from another. That we shall have to concentrate. We have to take expansion according to the tattva. Substance and categories; in which category. The same example. Just like here a government officer, he is also Indian gentleman, you are also Indian gentleman, but he has got his power on account of his high qualities. The part and parcel exercises his position.

Like that. So we are also part and parcel, but we are very small part and parcel. Just like if you throw one brick on the floor, so there will be so many small particles, big particles, this particle, that. They are all part and parcel of the brick, but one part very small atomic part, and one big part, this part, this part, then this part, then this part. Some of them are bigger and some of them are smaller.

So according to the size, or according to the power…. These are para-tattva. Similarly cit-tattva, spiritual world. The living entities, although they are in the material world, they belong to the spiritual world. This material energy is inferior. That I was trying to understand. These things are there.

And I try to…. You see. See the contents. The sakti tattva, or jiva tattva is always enjoyed. Our position is always predominated. Is this Balarama or Lord Ramacandra? Generally it means Krishna, because Rama means enjoyer. If we remain in that position and properly use our small independence, then we remain happily eternally. But artificially, if we want to be independent and imitate the Supreme Enjoyer, then it is delusion.

This Hare Krishna Mantra is addressed to the energy of the Lord and the Lord Himself to keep the chanter in his eternal position of being enjoyed. One of the important topics in Chapter Two is the nature and origin of jiva-tattva. Therefore, in his class explaining that chapter, Srila Maharaja took the opportunity to discuss the controversy over whether or not the living entity fell from the spiritual world. Therefore, rather than re-invent the wheel, or rather than transcribe this recent Dec.

If you want to have krsna-prema, you will have to follow the six Gosvamis. None are inferior to the other. When we will try to judge, we will see that each one of them is so high. We will not be able to decide. They were so humble, knowing all these special truths. If we want to achieve the goal of our life, which is krsna-prema, we will have to follow in this birth.

Or, if it is not possible to fully follow in this birth, we will have to gradually follow the process for lakhs and lakhs of births. It may take a day or a moment, but you will have to follow. There is no other way. Better to follow in this life. Who am I? Translation by Srila A.

Bhaktivedanta Swami Prabhupada. Why do the threefold miseries always give me trouble? If I do not know this, how can I be benefited? Actually, I do not know how to inquire about sadhya, the goal of life, and sadhana, the process for obtaining it. Being merciful upon me. Please explain all these truths. Really, none of us know who we are by constitution. You are asking. That is very good on your part because jani, you know everything. Is it not right? So this is the relationship between Sanatana Gosvami and Caitanya Mahaprabhu.

To confirm. Therefore you are asking. So we are also like this. Krsnera tatastha sakti. All souls are tatastha sakti parinam.

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They are not from the spiritual world. Therefore, the illusory energy, maya, gives him all kinds of misery in this material existence. If all souls are eternal servants of Krsna, then when did they become bahirmukha? When did they become adverse to Krsna? Why did they turn away from Krsna? He is the eternal servant of Krsna. He is tatastha-sakti: not pure svarupa-sakti. This should be remembered always.

The jiva is a manifestation of svarupa-sakti. From svarup-sakti comes Krsna, Nrsimha, Rama, and so on. They are svansa, and they have come from there. The vibhinnansa-tattva jiva never came from svarupa-sakti, and therefore he is called vibhinnansa jiva. Why did he become adverse to Krsna? This is the question. Those who are beginners cannot understand, but they should also try to understand. They are to be considered eternal associates of Krsna.

There is no maya; only yogamaya. They are always tasting and relishing this sweetness of serving Krsna. They cannot forget Krsna or be adverse to Him. Never, never.

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Their love and affection will always be new, new, new, new and renewed. And even if there is no place to be new, still it renews. They are perpetually conditioned in this material world and thus subjected to the material tribulations, brought about by different bodily forms in hellish conditions. What have they done wrong? Here is the point. Try to understand. What is the defect? They have never served Krsna. They have not relished the sweetness of serving Krsna. That is why a word has come here: tatastha-sakti.

What is tatastha-sakti? It is the marginal potency. From the plenary potency are produced complete entities, but from the incomplete potency have grown the jivas as atomic cit. Krsna manifests entities of different types in accordance with the kind of sakti He applies. When He desired to have His nitya parisada, eternal servitors in His transcendental plane of Goloka Vrndavana, Vaikuntha etc.

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He reveals or manifests the three forms of Visnu: Karanodakasayi, Ksirokakasayi and Garbhodakasayi. In Vraja He reveals His own nature as Krsna, with cit in fullness. As Baladeva He reveals the eternally free associate jivas for the performance of the eight kinds of service to Himself as Sri Krsna. Again, in Vaikuntha, as Maha Sankarsana, He reveals or manifests the eternally free associate jivas for service to Sri Narayana. Mahavisnu, the incarnation of Sankarsana, establishing Himself in the heart of jiva-sakti as Paramatma, creates the jiva-souls of tatastha-sakti.

These jivas are susceptible to the influence of maya. Though they are servants by constitution, those jivas have never been in Goloka Vrindavan. They are from the marginal point, and that marginal point is called tatastha-sakti. Tatastha-sakti is one of the saktis of svarup-sakti, but it is not full.

A certain type of jiva has come from there, either from Baladeva in Goloka Vrndavan or from Maha Sankarsana in Vaikuntha; but not all jivas. Those jivas who are always serving Krsna are called nitya-unumuka to Krsna. They are always serving. This second kind of jiva is coming from Narayana, that is, Karanodaksayi Visnu. That jiva is tatastha-sakti. Srila Jiva Gosvami has clarified this. There are ananta, unlimited, jivas emanating from tatastha-sakti and, from there, some are bahiramukha. This means they turn away from Krsna and enter the material world. This place, this material world, is like a svapnasthana, a dream-place.

Try to understand this. We are now in full worldly knowledge. It seems that we are awake, that someone else is dreaming, and that someone else is fast asleep without dreaming at all. But actually this place is like a dream-place. When we see any dream, we are neither fast asleep nor in such deep sleep that we are fully unconscious. Because he is part of cid-vastu, spiritual substance, the conditioned jiva is in a dream-like state, but he is thinking that he is in full consciousness.

The tastatha-sakti jiva comes from Karanodakasayee Visnu, and then comes out through His divine light-filled glance. It then depends on you what you choose. I will give a minute of time only. You should at once decide. As for those who looked from tatastha-sakti and were attracted to Krsna, Yogamaya at once gave them the power to come and serve Krsna for eternity. As far as where they go, that question will come afterwards. If you say that the jiva has fallen from there, from Goloka Vrndavana, then Bhagavad-gita will be false. By practicing bhakti-yoga for thousands and thousands of births, one is liberated and has a chance to go to that loka.

Then he will never return. The transcendental souls who are serving Krsna there are eternally liberated. They are all liberated. They have no chance to return. Prabhupada, Srila Swami Maharaja, has written this. But you do fall the first time — before you first came to this world. If anyone says this, we will have to reconcile from other very bona fide gurus. Jiva Gosvami is a very bona fide guru in tattva, especially in his Sandarbhas.

He has explained every subject without room for doubt. We will have to read his books in order to reconcile. You should especially read Bhaktivinoda Thakura, the Sattvam, seventh Gosvami. Srila Bhaktivinoda Thakura has clearly explained all this in Jaiva-dharma. There he has written that there are so many eternal souls who are coming from Baladeva Prabhu in Goloka Vrindavan. Nanda Baba and all the sakhas are there.

And what about the gopis? They are all Nitya-siddha kayavuyha rupa of Srimati Radhika. Those who are not bodily manifestations of Radhika are jivas coming from Baladeva. They are also eternally liberated and they are serving Krsna. This is also true Dvaraka, and also in Vaikuntha. And some jivas are coming from Karanodakasayi Visnu; from the tatastha or marginal line, from tatastha-sakti. They are also of two kinds: some are liberated and some are conditioned. Srila Bhaktivinoda Thakura has clearly explained all these truths and now we will have to reconcile.

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Research Innovation Progress - Green Chemistry. He is termed as the supreme truth satya. There is thus discussion in the Sankaradeva-ite philosophical literature on the nature of reality—specifically, on what constitutes the essential nature of entities tattva. The difference between the material jada and spiritual caitanya is critical in Sankaradeva; it determines worship in the Eka Sarana school. He is superior to both prakrti , primal matter, and purusa , the pure, spiritual personality. He is the cause, as it were, of these two entities.

Hari is the supreme soul and great benefactor of all. Thou the best purusa , the supreme purusa and Master of Supreme Joy.